Episode 24 – Mind Frameworks

Each result in our life can be tracked back to our thoughts. Not our circumstances. So, do you like your results? This episode explores a framework that helps you take a look at your own mind and how to work on thoughts to get the results you want.

Episode 24 Show Notes

  • Seth Godin
  • Byron Katie
  • James Allen
  • Brooke Castillo – creator of The Model
    • C – Circumstance
    • T – Thought
    • F – Feeling
    • A – Action
    • R – Result

Episode 24 Show Transcript

This is Rebecca Clark Episode 24 Mind Frameworks This’ll Podcast is for anyone that knows they haven’t yet found and offered up their best work but are compelled to seek it out and do it. Are you ready to move your desk? Our minds play tricks on us. I am fully aware that my mind has been tricking me into thinking that I cannot record this particular episode. And so I’ve put it off for a few weeks and recorded other episodes in between and thought a lot about this one and finally have just decided that I must share and whatever comes out. I need to live with it and be okay with it. And this is really interesting to me because when I first started the podcast, Siri’s, I couldn’t bring myself to create the first episode the one that I felt was supposed to be the most valuable because it would introduce everything that I would ever create from that point forward. And finally, one day I just had to sit there and talk to myself and go Okay, if you’re not ready to do the first episode at least record the 2nd 3rd and fourth what I actually ended up doing is recording the fifth episode about cars and exhaust pipes and learning first. I believe that was the 1st 1 I actually finished. And then I had topics for the others, and I finished those. And then the actual fifth recording was Episode one, and it isn’t as amazing as I hoped it would be. But I created it. And I feel that way about this particular episode because this is where I wanted to talk specifically about mind frameworks, and this is a very important topic to me right now in life. And so I want it to be this wonderful episode. And yet the struggle I’ve had around creating it shows just how real the challenges are in working with your own mind, your own thinking and changing your own thinking. And maybe that is important and what I have to share today and to let you know that I struggle with this just as I am learning how to teach this in a more succinct way. So, first of all, I do want to go back in time, and I realized that I do that a lot. But there are stories in the past that do influence decisions that I make now that also influence how I’m learning and growing right now, which I think is fascinating. Years ago, the way that college worked out for me and some of my siblings put us in a situation where there were 23 or four of us in college at the same time, because of the timing of our birth, obviously, but also the timing of when we chose to take a semester off, for if we chose to go be a service missionary for a year and 1/2 or two and coming back. So it put all of us that these different points in college together and one of my sisters, Renee, had gotten married during college, and she also had a child right toward the end of her last year. I think she took some time off, then came back because she wanted to make sure she finished her degree and she had a psychology credit that she had to fulfill as part of her major. And I had one of my miners with psychology teaching and so I had a couple of more credits that I needed to take. So we decided to take a class together and because she had a child, her husband had a job. I had different classes and everything. We were looking more for an evening class, one of those 4:30 p.m. Classes that I always loved because you kind of got these professors that worked day jobs and then came in to be a professor. And so I felt like I got some real live experience from these professors. And so we look in the catalog, we both sign up for the psychology class and we go to it the first day and we’re sitting in the room, and I still remember it was a room that only fit about 40 people, maybe, and that matters when you’re going to walk out right. It’s not the big 500 person room, and so we sit there and the person is explaining the course. And of course I don’t remember who that professor was because it was just for a few moments. But we’re sitting there listening and we look at each other and we just don’t feel quite right, like we’re not in the right place and we kind of get up and go into the hallway and have a little discussion and, like, you know, it doesn’t feel like we’re in the right spot or the right class. So we look up the schedule and we see that across campus. There is this psychology class, and I don’t even remember what it’s called. I probably should have looked that up before recording this, but it was some kind of psychology class that did not draw our attention the first time. But this time around, we book it across campus and we walk into this room and it’s supposed to hold 30 or 40 people, but there’s 50 people in there. So those people standing around the walls and they are riveted to the professor at the front of the room. So we come in the back and we listen, and within minutes we’re overwhelmed with this feeling of Wow, what on earth is this class? It sounds amazing, because the focus was different than these other classes you walk into. And I’m sure we’ve all experienced this where you walk into a class and you immediately start going through the syllabus and what the semester is gonna be like and the tests and the assignments and what books you should buy. And then they ask questions. And everyone asked the same. You know, basic questions which are annoying to some of us, right, because the people raised their hands saying, Well, what will be on the tests and everything? Like, Why would they teach it if it’s not gonna be on the test anyway? That’s my little side note. And I feel like I can say that because I have a defunct secondary teaching certificate amongst my accomplishments. It’s so this class was different because I don’t even remember if he covered the syllabus. He got right into teaching and talking to us about the importance of how we think and our relationships and how often we are assuming people are doing stuff to us. But really, how we feel and how we react is the result of all of these other experiences we’ve had in life and all of these experiences we’ve had with the person that is bugging us, or that we’re angry at or frustrated that we have to live with. And this turned into a semester of life changing moments because our assignments involved bringing a really problem we were dealing with, and we would have to work on that problem with a roommate, a friend, a family member, using the tools and insights we were learning in that class. And the professor did not have a book at that time, but he was working on a transcript or a manuscript with another professor, and that manuscript was what we used in the course. And it was, I believe, under $10. People loved it so much that they started selling these and I shared a copy with my parents, and I remember my father loved it so much. He bought many copies. I don’t remember how many, but it was at least 10 copies to share with people he knew because he felt like this was just such a valuable way to approach relationships and ourselves. Now, what that has since turned into is the Harbinger Institute bonds that make you free. It’s the original manuscript was bonds of anguish, bonds of Love, and this was powerful stuff. And I feel like experiencing that in college furthered my interest in learning about our own minds and how we think. And since that time I’ve loved learning about the latest and greatest in neuroscience and learning from other people to like Byron Katie, who always has great ideas. Seth Godin, who comes from a marketing perspective. And there’s a whole lot of people that talk about how we think and how we can change anything in our lives by thinking differently. And this goes beyond positive thinking, abundance, thinking, positive affirmations, thinking, even though those are wrapped into it. But some of us don’t relate to that very well. I have a hard time keeping up with little phrases like I am powerful. I am this I am that I’ll say, Um, but the problem is, is if you don’t really believe that deep down in your subconscious mind saying it isn’t going to get you very far unless you work on some other things. And so I think I mentioned this in the reflection episode. I have always been a big journal writer, a big reflector, and I’ve automatically tried to reflect and get immediate lessons learned on situations and the goodness, and that is that I talked on my own mind a lot, and yet I found that lately I have come across some approaches that bring all of that understanding of the brain, how the body works, how we interact and how we make changes in our life all come together in a simple framework. I am calling it a mind framework, but it is called the Model by Brooke Castillo. And I wanted Thio share more about that model today because I view it as a very important framework from which to solve any problem or work through any issue that your brain is dealing with relationship issues, making money issues, issues with health or relationships, frustration about how you deal with problems making decisions in life. It provides a framework that you can sit down and self coach yourself on at any time and start working on your own brain. And we’re with ourselves a lot. So it does make sense to practice on ourselves the most, even though sometimes it’s valuable to have someone else coach you on using this model, and I know that I have made tremendous progress in certain aspects of life bike self coaching myself with this framework. But I’m always surprised that when I have someone coach me with this framework in mind, how much they’re able to show me about my own brain. And this is a type of coaching that I will be offering some individually and some in group sessions to teach you more about how to apply this in your thinking and way of life. Recently I was watching a recording of someone being coached, and it was fascinating to watch this experience because it was a mother talking about how she felt like she was such a bad mother, because her 13 year old son came to her and said he had an issue with pornography and she was sharing all these thoughts and all of these things that had happened and how her thought about that was that I’m such a bad mother because my 13 year old son is viewing pornography. And when she had the thought that I am a bad mother, she had certain feelings. She could have been frustrated. She could have been sad. She could have felt hopeless. And when you have a feeling like sad or frustrating, her hopeless, let’s just take hopeless for a second. There certain ways you act or they’re certain ways that you don’t act. As a result, of that. So if she’s feeling hopeless as a mother because she thinks I’m such a bad mother, my son’s viewing pornography she may do some things differently than she had done before having that thought. So let’s take a guess. It some of those things. She may avoid him, or she may actually start monitoring him. Maur. She could express sadness or anger. She may talk about it with more friends or family and ruminate on what kinds of issues are going on. What more could be happening. What else is she doing wrong? And the result of all of these actions and inactions are that she kind of starts to fulfill What are thought was that maybe she isn’t as great of a mother. Maybe she’s not as attentive. Or maybe she is angrier than usual. Or maybe she is talking to more people about her son than she used to. And so in a way, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy because she is acting differently after she has this thought in this feeling. And so this person’s being coached, and what I remember from the session is the coach offered the mother a different thought and the thought wasn’t You are amazing. This is all on him or a thought that was too outlandish for her to even accept. It was the idea or the thought that maybe you are just the right mother for this boy. And how amazing is it that a 13 year old boy desired to talk to his mom about having a pornography issue unsolicited, that he came to her to talk about this issue? How amazing is that? How many 13 year old boys in the world today? We’re gonna go into the kitchen or knock on the mom’s bedroom door and say, Hey, Mom, I want to tell you about something that I’m doing that I’m not proud of or that I have a problem with. And it’s not something like a bruised knee or a B minus on a paper. This is a pornography problem. And it was so interesting. Tow Watch this coach and this mom interact and to see how when the coach offered up the idea to think about the same exact situation differently, everything changed. The mother got very emotional like I even feel a little emotional just remembering listening to the conversation because you could feel the shift where she suddenly rise. Wait a second. How lucky. How wonderful that I am a mother that a 13 year old boy can feel comfortable coming to and talking to. I am the right mother for him. I’m doing my job. I am the right person to help him work through this. We can do this together. And when she starts thinking that kind of thought, What’s her feeling? It’s not hopeless. It’s hope full. And when you feel hopeful about something, what do you do? You start taking actions that people that are hopeful take right. You sit down and work with the person you say, What can I do to help you? Let’s think about this. Let’s talk to someone who’s been through this before. Let’s come together and work on this. And what will be the result of that situation? We can take some guesses, a closer relationship between mother and son, an opportunity to look at what other choices could be made and to think about what’s going on. Are there some stresses? Are there some inabilities to deal with certain emotions? Are there some things going on in other environments at school, at work, church on the playground? Or what would it be the school bus? If you’re a 13 year old or on your mobile APs, it’s an opportunity to stop and take note that something’s going on and we have a relationship together. We can address this. I share that story even though it doesn’t feel like it may apply to some people. Because, as I learned this framework, I have applied it to my own thinking. And most recently, I have had the desire to move to the western United States. I’ve lived in the East and the West had lived in over nine states, and I just feel like it was time to go westward. There’s mountains, there’s wide open spaces. There’s entrepreneurial spirit, right? All of these things. Plus, I’ve got a lot of family and friends out there. I have a lot of family and friends, every part of United States, but I felt like it was time for sunshine, Red Rocks, mountains, that kind of thing. But everybody in my life didn’t feel like that was the right thing. And there’s worry about jobs and those kinds of opportunities. There’s worries about what you’d leave in the D C area. If you go westward, all these concerns and anxieties come up. And not just in me, but in my household and with friends and family. So I struggling with this right at the time, I’m learning about this framework. So I put it in the framework my thought of I want to move west and I had a good feeling about it, you know? It was exciting. And what actions would I take? Okay, I’m wrapping up my job. I can do my business anywhere, live A very simple life would be very easy to move. We confined new school, new places, toe work, figure out a house And then I did another model, and I started to look at a framework with a new thought and that thought was the D. C area is perfect, and I tried to step back and say OK, circumstances are neutral. Their fax and a lot of our thoughts we think are facts. But they actually are not, because unless everyone agrees 100% it’s not a fact. And so there are lots of people living in the D C area that think it’s absolutely wonderful. They live here the rest of their lives. They’re people that think this is the best place to be for jobs, the best place to be for health care, for schools and for all of that. There’s people that don’t think it is there. I get out of this horrible place with all this traffic. It’s so expensive. All of these reasons, though we say it’s not right and I’m probably somewhere in between where I want to honor the space that I’ve been for a long time, while also continually seeking to improve and move on if necessary. So I allowed myself to sit there and think about this and to entertain the thought that perhaps what I wanted to obtain was right here. And I stepped back and kind of looked at this framework from a different perspective and said, OK, let me start with what results I want in life. Well, I want to feel exhilarated about the work I’m doing. I want to make sure my family is positioned to enjoy life and help other people build good relationships with other families and individuals and organizations. I want to live in a space where I can see what that means for me is I don’t want trees blocking my view. And that may be a rare opinion for someone living in the forest of the East Coast. But I really need some space between me and the trees so I can see horizons and have a sense of over all spaciousness around me. I don’t need a lot of stuff and I need to be able to see and that was important to me. And so I’m thinking through all of these results, like, Well, to get those results, what do I need to dio? What actions would I need to take? And I realize, Wait a second toe, have all those things. I just need to learn how to do my business, learn how to coach. I would seek out a spot where I could see a horizon and feel like there’s some space around me. I would be seeking a good school. I would be just being kind and friendly to people around me, and in order to take those kinds of actions, I would have to feel exhilarated. That is a word that I I feel good about exhilarated. I don’t need to be a peace necessarily. But I need to feel exhilarated because from that place of exhilaration, I will reach out to people. I will find great spots, toe work and live. And I will have those results that I identified and in order to feel exhilarated, the thought that would be in my head would be something like I am in the perfect place to live my best life. Or I have everything I need to create what I desire or I am in the perfect spot to accomplish my goals. And when I use this framework to start with the result I wanted and pedal backwards, I realized Wait a second. What if I have all of this right now? What if I don’t even have to move to make this happen? And I had this personal Ah ha moment run like wait a second. I can have that thought right now and operate from this location with what I have going for me already and accomplish the same thing. And who knows, maybe we will move west at some point still, but right now is important to take a look at the mind and what it really desired. And to realize I had everything already in my hands and in my life that I needed to get the results I wanted. And this was all something that I took one hour and worked on and from that place of realizing Wait a second. Maybe I already have everything I need right here. I was able to feel better, and from that place of feeling exhilarated, I took action. And guess what? Within a couple days of that decision, I was driving on a different road near my home and I found a park that I swear I’ve never seen before. And this park had multiple soccer fields, multiple baseball fields and a couple of parking lots. And that feels rare for this part of town that I live in because there’s just so many trees in the parks that air called park. Sometimes I’m like, No, you put a jungle gym in the forest. I’m not going into any forest to sit there and play with my child like, and this is not a park to me. This is like a nature walk, and I’m you know, my tree thing. I’m not really big into these nature walks hidden in the trees because all I can think about is mold ticks and people running out and scaring me. And so I prefer these open places. So I find this park, and then I find that there’s another area across the street that just look like some sports fields. But there actually was a little trail that was appealing to me. That was right within that open space. And I thought, You’ve got to be kidding me. I have access to a space that I need for my walking, my thinking and my horizon and it’s within a mile of my house. No kidding. Out of all the places I’ve been in the last couple years around my place, and I didn’t know about this, and it was a great place to take my family. But it was also a great place for me to come personally to work if I needed to have access two the horizon with the trees in the distance, not on top of me. And during this time I appreciated even Maur the school experience my child is having, and I appreciated our living situation and the opportunities it affords us to support my work, our health and what we need to do at this time. So I’m giving you two examples, but I want to share with you the framework. Now the framework is something that has five components, and with this framework you’re able to solve any problem that you’re dealing with in your mind. And it consists of these five elements, and I will walk through each of them briefly and it starts with a C and that’s of circumstance. And I mentioned this earlier. It’s a fact everyone would have to agree with the fact. So if you’re saying he or she is a jerk, that’s not a fact. That’s a thought because not everyone would agree there being a jerk in all moments or even in the moment. You think they’re being jerky, and so circumstances are just fax and you see, in both of the stories I just shared, the circumstances didn’t change. The 13 year old boy said he was viewing pornography in one of the models. His mother felt like a bad mom. When she had a few moments toe work on her thoughts, she became just the right mom for him. The circumstance did not change. And that’s a wonderful part of this model framework is that it’s very clear and showing you that it does not matter what your circumstances are. It does matter, but you start to see very clearly that your circumstances are often are result you have created from prior thinking. So circumstances are just facts, and these are things that are good. Thio sit down and write down when you’re thinking you have a problem about something to sit down and write it all out and do a thought. Download what you talked about in the reflection episode. Just write down everything you’re thinking. What’s disturbing you? What’s going on. And then from that thought, download separate out circumstances from your thoughts. And once you separate out those circumstances from thoughts and you may need a coach or someone else to show you and talk through, what’s the difference between the circumstance and the thoughts? You would go to the next line of this model, and I’m gonna call it a model or a framework because I kind of wanna honor what it’s called by the creator of it. But because I talk about these things in terms of frameworks. I also want to use that term, and I’ll share another reason why later. The second element is thoughts in this model. So once you’ve identified circumstances and all these little thoughts running around in your head, you choose just one of those thoughts and you write that down. Just choose one of them. And with that thought so we can use that jerk example. I guess since I brought that up and say, OK, this person is x number of years old. This person is my boss. This person is supervisor to five people. This person works 8 to 5. Those might be fax in this situation. The thought is he is a jerk. And really, I’d put down. I think he’s a jerk. And when you think he’s a jerk, the third component of this model comes up and that is feelings. So when you have the thought that he is a jerk, how do you feel? And at that point, you can say I feel mad, angry, frustrated, helpless, stuck, whatever feeling you’re having and what’s really interesting is that as we learn more about feelings, some of us because I didn’t ever consider myself someone that had lots of feelings, that it’s really important to identify the feeling that you get and there’s even a book out or there’s a few books out that have lists of feelings and definitions, and that is really helpful if you’re someone like me who hasn’t taken a lot of time and life to identify feelings. In fact, I think I kind of had a thought that I could act without feelings, that I could look beyond the feelings and take action. And it’s been surprising to know now that that’s just not so that we take all action based upon our feelings. And so when we think a thought right, we don’t need our feelings. We can hop straight toe actions were wrong. We actually do have feelings, and we may be acting out or not ick acting in certain ways as a result of having these feelings. So let’s say when you think the thought I forgot what it was. Oh, my boss is a jerk. Let’s go with one feeling. We don’t want to clutter ourselves with every single thought and feeling we’re having. We’re focusing on one and the feeling we get, let’s say it’s frustrated. When we have this feeling, How do we act? And that takes us to the fourth component of the model actions. So when you’re frustrated with your boss, there’s a few things you may d’oh you, maybe someone that starts to bark back at him. You may be someone that starts talking about him, or you may be someone that starts to avoid him. So instead of taking action, you go into non action or inaction mode. So avoidance you may turn in different work or not turning certain work or not be a CE fast with certain work or actively sabotage, and you hear stories all the time. I tried it fast food places or in offices or other situations where an employee takes it out on their boss. They taken action they would normally never take because they’re just so frustrated. And so we take a lot of actions or don’t take some actions. As a result. In what I find really interesting is the things that we don’t do when we feel these things so we can start avoiding our boss when normally we might have stopped by their door to talk, or we may conveniently skip a meeting that normally we would attend to or we may not bring up the fact that he hasn’t met with us for a while. We might just let it slide because it helps us further avoid. And this brings us to the fifth part of the model. What happens as a result of this frustration and the follow on actions? Well, we certainly don’t get closer to our boss. If anything, there’s a bigger riff between us and our boss, and there may be other results that happen, right? We may actually become less effective in other areas at work. We may do less work because we’re spending a lot of thinking on this particular item or we may not get as much work done in general because we’re doing a lot more thinking and talking about this particular thought. My boss is a jerk. I’ve got to tell the world we’ve gotta actively undermine him and make sure that nobody else reports to them ever because they’re such a jerk. And so when we take a look at the results that come from this, we can look back at the thought and go Wow. Yeah, like there cannot be a great result from thinking of thought. My boss is a jerk, and yet I I think see, now it becomes hard to use these words once you know this model, because then you scrutinize your own words a lot. But I think this came to my mind quickly because it’s something that so many people have dealt with in their work. And you look at how we act at work and realize Wait a second. If I’m having these thoughts about a co worker or a boss or an initiative or about a whole organization, there’s no way I’m going to get great results for myself. And what’s great about this model is that you use it on yourself, and when you’re coaching someone using this model, you on Lee coach them. We’re not going to change the boss in any of this. We have no control over the boss. He’s in control of himself or not. But you certainly aren’t in control of him because, of course, if you were in control of him, he would not be a jerk, right? But that that’s not an option. I think a lot of us have tried to control other people in life, and we all do it in some way, shape or form until I realize Oh, wait, I I have no control over this person’s behavior, and I would have no business trying to coach anyone on how to control someone I can on Lee coach the person and take a look at their brain with them on how their own brain may be having a thought that is not serving them, and it certainly is not serving their relationship with their boss. And I did not know this framework when I worked with all my past bosses and I can look back and see how I worked with them in various ways. Sometimes I was extremely effective at working with, um, sometimes I was not at all. And sometimes I could see the frustration on their face as they’re interacting with me, because I am someone who is going to stand up for myself when I need to. And if I don’t, it’s because I’ve made a purposeful choice not to, and I’ve done it for a reason, and so they would know I wasn’t gonna back down, but I could see on their face Oh, wow. I’m ticked off because my employees not following what I want them to do. Well, of course not. I’m not gonna be controlled, right? And even someone who’s sitting there looking humble and quiet may not be that happy below the surface and be thinking my boss is a jerk and I’m not gonna be controlled, even though on the surface it may not look like it. And so they could quietly be going through this frustration and resulting in lower work performance more time lost on the job due to this thinking and never being able to work through building a better relationship with their boss. And this will follow us, right? Because if you change the circumstance, get a new boss. You may feel like the situation has changed for a little while, but there will be things to keep cropping up if that kind of thought and thinking has not been worked on. This is one of those reasons why you know, birds of a feather flock together. If you’re an addict, you can go to a new town with within an hour, find another addict If you love thinking big ideas and working through big ideas. It’s almost guaranteed. You’re gonna run into someone fairly quickly that thinks that way, because this all comes from our thinking and how we feel when we feel a certain way we present a certain way and we interact with people in a certain way that creates certain results. It’s a beautiful thing. So just to repeat circumstances or just fax thoughts are just sentences going on in our minds that are just sentences they’re not. Fax. Feelings are vibrations in our body. This is not like physical stuff that happens to us like when if someone hits us, we’re gonna hurt, and it’ll feel like it hurts well that we don’t have control over. But most other feelings have to do with these vibrations that come in our body. Right When we feel frustrated, you can feel something come up in your chest or, if you’re embarrassed, the face actually physically flushes. But this is all coming from a thought we’re having about whatever’s happening, our thoughts about our circumstances. So we have our circumstances, our thoughts, our feelings, actions. This is what we do or we don’t do when we have a feeling feelings, Dr everything but behind those feelings or little thoughts. And of course, when we take action, we get results. And if we are not getting the results we want in our life and our work and our relationships, we can use this model in reverse to find out a little bit more about our thoughts, because we may find that we actually don’t believe that it’s possible and we don’t need to go and say, OK, I’ve got to be positive and think positive But can we take a look at our thoughts and look at them a little differently and maybe come up with a stepping stone thought that can help us think slightly differently toward having slightly different feelings and slightly different actions and slightly different results. That puts us in a place to revisit a thought again and incrementally make shifts in our lives and thinking I have gone through a lot of new challenges and trials in the last month or two things that I never thought I would deal with in my life, and I have been able to use this framework to help me through it, and it’s given me an opportunity to see how all of these experiences air for my good. All of these experiences will help me offer up my best work to the world and learning how to take the exact same circumstances and look at them differently and see how they’re serving me can be life changing and why not offer that up to ourselves and others? And I wanted to share when I was first introduced to this model. I actually created a chart for myself because that’s what I do. And it was helping me as I was reading through it in a book, and I chose to take 45 thoughts and I kind of put them in the left column under. Well, I put it under circumstances until I realized, Oh, those were not fax. Those were thought. So I put the next column thoughts and from those thoughts identified feelings and from the feelings identified the actions and actions and the results and putting 45 thoughts in this framework. I recognize that all of my feelings identified as anxiousness or anxiety and like wait a second. There’s a pattern here, and it was wonderful because I turned the page in the book after I had made this chart to kind of practice what the book was talking about, it said. Now anxiety is an interesting emotion that a lot of people say is what they’re feeling. But this is kind of a cover emotion. There’s actually some other emotions going on below that. And so it was extremely valuable to me that I had gone through this practice of creating this framework and used this model for 45 thoughts, and I was defaulting to this anxiety, feeling and realizing. Wait a second. Maybe I don’t know what all these feelings are that I’m feeling. I’m just calling them anxiety, and it helped me start toe work on myself more. And working on feelings is very uncomfortable for me because I realized I’m a bit stoic at times and to work on being less stoic with myself and go wait a second. I do have feelings. What are those feelings and trying to work through? That has been an extremely valuable practice. I hope to share much more with you about this. I am a newbie in so many ways, while also honoring all those life experiences and all those other experiences I had in the past, where I learned about how to think and reflect and apply lessons and merging that with this newfound knowledge of how the brain works and how you can work with your brain to help it make changes and toe look at things differently. And ultimately, offer up your best work in your best self to all of your relationships and tow life and to become who you’re supposed to become, whatever that may be. Thank you for listening. I didn’t realize this episode would go so long, but I’m grateful you are still here to the end and excited to hear your thoughts about this and to share further episodes on this topic. Have a great day and take a look at those thoughts going on in your mind. Thank you again for listening to the move your desk show. Take a minute and go to move your desk dot com and sign up for the weekly email. 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